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... are polluting our environment. [ sniffing ] [ seagulls squawking ] [cheers and applause] >> jon: welcome back. we're here with former president jimmy carter. it must be interesting for you. you were president 1976 to 1980. you know, during that time you had a very difficult time with crazy north korea leader that you had to try toll negotiate out developing nuclear weapons. >> yes. >> jon: there was an invasion of afghanistan that you had to take a stand on. does it ever strike you as -- so have we moved nowhere? are we just gerbils running on a wheel? [laughter] this is the third generation of kims that is -- then the forth the kardashian. [ laughter ] that are using sort of nuclear threat to gain some type of attention. >> well, when bill clinton was president, i went over to north korea because we were faced with a war between north korea and south creal. i noilgted with the seen -- south korea. i negotiated with the senior kim who was worshiped like jesus christ and george washington combined. they would do anything he said. we negotiated for a number of hours. he agreed with everything i
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